Is It Time That Liberal, White Women Got Spanked?

A comment I wrote on FB about the Huffington Post article suggesting that white men should lose the vote, and the ensuing controversy:

“Look at the source. HuffPo is edited by not-very-attractive young white women with the sort of college education girls get these days in America. They lack perspective and have been taught all their lives that a) women are right and b) men are evil.

They don’t normally get taken seriously. Like most spoilt brats. But they finally went too far. Probably they feel frustrated that Trump won despite their huffing and puffing.

I am not going to read their latest offensive drivel. But I can suggest that white men are finally losing patience with being constantly attacked and insulted. About time.

The sheer absurdity of suggesting that physically weak and  generally technically incompetent females could forcibly remove the franchise from white men doesn’t seem to have occurred to them.

If a man were to write an article, Is It Time That Liberal, White Women Got Spanked?, it would be more feasible and realistic.

These dim females depend on white men at every moment for their comfort and survival. Perhaps they need to be reminded.”

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35 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Roman Lance on April 15, 2017 at 2:06 am

    I think most women test a man’s affection for them by making outrageous demands. And should he always acquiesce it is only because he doesn’t really love them enough to tell them to shut up.

    Or course this has an added benefit for women in that they can blame men for their miserable life choices because we let them get away with so much.

    We are so evil. 🙂

    So, yeah let’s bring back spanking.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 2:51 am

      Yes. There is something in that. Some of the outrageous female behaviour of late does seem more and more like a “shit test” (more politely, a “fitness test”).

      It does sometimes seem like a cry for some kind of firm response.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 2:53 am

      It always feels so strange when I think it, but I do sometimes think that women do need “boundaries” set for them.

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      • Posted by Roman Lance on April 15, 2017 at 3:25 am

        I’ve noticed in my personal circumstances that my wife has responded well to me making more unreasonable demands.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 3:34 am

        Oh, the “Red Pill” works. It helped enormously during a slump in my marriage.

        If only more husbands knew what really works with wives. It’s pretty much the reverse of what they are usually told.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 2:47 am

        Women love attention. If you tell them what you think and want, even if it is on the negative side, they usually like it.

  2. Posted by patrick mccauley on April 15, 2017 at 3:04 am

    It is somehow liberating even to hear the words spoken … but if you do she can leave you and take your children, your house, your home and your fatherhood and your sanity with her. She could turn you into a husk of a man living in bungalows and rural town caravan parks for the rest of your life. Its about the relationship between the punishment and the crime … as Gilbert and Sullivan say ‘…and let the punishment fit the crime, the punishment fit the crime’

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 3:07 am

      Well, a lot of things “could” happen in life. How often do they?

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      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 3:10 am

        Recently, I was reading my old diaries, from early in my marriage, and I came across an “incident”. I didn’t end up living in “a rural town caravan park”.

  3. Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 3:22 am

    What bothers me is that the writer of that post is South African. Something similar to this was attempted in their neighbor to the north, what was once Rhodesia. It is now Zimbabwe.
    Spanking will not help. These women are feminists. They will not accept the authority of a man over them and they will not suffer a man to live with them. From here on, their hate for men is going to dictate to them for the rest of their lives.
    I hope that HuffPo piece is distributed widely. It will demonstrate what is behind feminism to everybody. While moderate feminists may try to pooh pooh it, they won’t call out radicals as the poison that they are.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 3:37 am

      My main point is not to suggest a return to wives being spanked (in any case, it never really left – it is still pretty common in Western marriages according to surveys – although I suspect mostly as foreplay). My point was that it would be more feasible to call for wives to be spanked than for men to lose the vote. Who is going to prevent men voting? Women?!

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      • Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 5:42 am

        Like all feminists, she would call on the government to be her enforcer. In this instance, there may be a problem. White men work there.
        Silly feminist.

        As for spanking wives, having never married, I am not qualified to comment.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 5:57 am

        Well, precisely. They would be asking men, most of them white, to enforce laws against themselves. It fails even as a thought experiment.

        What feminists have largely succeeded in doing is making nearly anything a man does (or does not do), including in marriage, a potential crime. In reality, these laws will not and cannot be enforced.

        On the topic of spanking, I will give a case I know something about as an example. A man I know had an errant fiancee who agreed to be spanked as a punishment for some infraction. Afterwards they nevertheless broke up. Suppose she had decided to report him to the cops. She would have had to give a statement, and presumably have pictures taken – of her bruised and pink buttocks – to support her claims of being assaulted. And eventually give evidence in court. Her friends and family would have found out. What young woman would want such an humiliating episode to become commonly known?

        Yes, as Patrick indicated above, things could go very badly wrong. And they do for a percentage of men. But with normal luck, they won’t. Feminists can make just about every male behaviour a potential crime, but that has probably always been the kind of risk men have faced. Men have to get canny and resourceful at how they navigate the risks.

        In general, feminists can introduce unfair laws, and they have already succeeded to a large degree. But somebody has to enforce them, and the courts have to apply the laws. Stupid, unreasonable laws tend to become “dead letters”.

        We white men are formidable. Women much less so. The sex that invented the Saturn rocket and the T-34 tank is not going to be dominated by the sex that has invented essentially nothing. (By dominated I mean, physically. As in some crazy attempt to deny men the vote.)

      • Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 7:05 am

        I do see it working for them. While I know there has to be an end to it somewhere, they haven’t hit it and so they remain at it.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 7:09 am

        I get the distinct impression there is increasing pushback. Not just among men but among women.

        Remember that despite the way in which Trump was tarred as a “sexist”, the majority of white women voted for him.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 8:04 am

        The other powerful development has been the rapid evolution of alternative and social media. Feminists cannot control the media completely these days. For example an anti-feminist politician (from the Left strangely enough) recently got removed from a TV show here in Australia but he is now broadcasting his show on Facebook.

      • Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 8:40 am

        Good to hear about the anti-feminist liberal that found a new platform. They do want to have complete control of the narrative. I hope the pushback continues, but as feminists shed moderate adherents, they will be left with radicals.

        Hope this cheers you up. It is a song from California, composed about the time of the Gold Rush.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 9:10 am

        His name is Mark Latham. He is worth looking up. He used to lead the Left political party in Australia.

      • Posted by Glengarry on April 16, 2017 at 7:39 am

        “Feminists can make just about every male behaviour a potential crime, but that has probably always been the kind of risk men have faced. Men have to get canny and resourceful at how they navigate the risks.”

        While superficially true, this sort of reasoning strikes me as being in the ‘bargaining’ stage. Sure, all of us here can pass the most difficult and prolonged tests with contemptuous ease, but why continually make it harder for men to form and maintain families? Is this really where we want to spend our attention and energies? I just read an article about a Canadian man enslaved by family court, who after some time committed suicide due to the demands. The names of the tormentors could not be published, of course, just like rape accusers can now be anonymous. Things have quietly crept a bit further.

        When I’m in MRA mode (meaning looking at how society dysregulates our relations), I think all of this has to be rolled back, all of it, and thoroughly erased.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 8:29 am

        Glengarry, I am not hopeful of a total rollback. Not even of a partial rollback. Australia is not as far along as America or Canada, but I can see the direction in which things are being pushed. And these laws have a “ratchet effect” or what economists call, I understand, an “endowment effect”. Once they are in place, they are hard to reverse. Women start to expect that these “protections” will not be removed.

        On the other hand, who knows? Bad laws producing bad results and bad publicity may change people’s minds. If not to rescind or change laws, at least to affect behaviour.

        I don’t think having a wife has ever been easy. In fact, I think it is hard work. If you can get a woman to service you (in the bedroom, in the kitchen and in the laundry) and to do it respectfully, you have won at life (feminists get that right – it really is good). But it is a lot of hard work to maintain that situation – to keep the woman happily whirring along running her “wife program”.

        Nothing prepares men for what being a husband is really like. The sheer amount of emotional work. Men tend to be brave rather than enduring, and many husbands effectively give up and start to accept society’s and their wives’ contempt.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 8:31 am

        Society has always policed men hard. Just in different ways. There was a time when a man was literally responsible for his wife’s debts. When he was legally required to provide for her by working (he may still be). When he could be charged with “breach of promise” if he failed to marry a woman he had slept with on the understanding that he would. When he could go to jail for not going to war (I know a man who did). And so on.

        Life is full of traps for men. It is now, but it always has been. They just keep changing the traps.

  4. Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 10:51 am

    The Huffington Post in South Africa has written a follow up article.I don’t think they get it.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/04/14/this-blog-on-white-men-is-going-viral-heres-our-response_a_22039753/

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 11:09 am

      Yes. I understand they have tried to “walk it back”. I haven’t read the articles. But the headline is enough. Maybe they had something more nuanced in mind, but if so, don’t lead with a clickbait line about taking the franchise off white men.

      If you are provocative, expect to provoke a reaction. Feminists cannot go on being edgy without getting blowback.

      The war of ideas is brutal these days.

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      • Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 11:30 am

        Maybe they threw it out there to see how strong the response would be? Even if the didn’t, they are learning.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 11:37 am

        It’s an insane idea. Not just discriminatory but unworkable. This is why I sometimes think they are trying to provoke a masculine response. I can’t imagine even the weakest beta male accepting this idea.

        Some commenters have suggested that what they REALLY want is to silence redneck men and working class men.

      • Posted by fuzziewuzziebear on April 15, 2017 at 1:21 pm

        Whatever their motivation, I don’t think this gave them what they wanted. Add to that, this made them look foolish.

  5. Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 15, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    I will leave this here. It argues that Australia is still dominated by a masculine ethos.

    http://www.artsreporter.online/is-the-image-of-australianness-masculine/

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  6. Posted by RichardP on April 16, 2017 at 8:59 am

    Julian – if you still haven’t read the HP article – in Fuzzie’s last link, HP states that they have withdrawn the first article. Seems that they could not verify that the author of the article actully exists. I did read the first article. The propositions in it were so outlandish that I wondered if the article was written and published as a prank of sorts. Now, with it being withdrawn, it seems that maybe it was. The plea in the article – “help me come up with ideas about how we can do this” – suggested that the author was not serious about what she wrote. Who seriously publicly calls for a plan of action and then admits that they have not thought through whether said plan of action is actually doable or not?

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 9:10 am

      I don’t know. I think the HuffPo people live in a bit of a bubble.They were probably surprised to get the response they did.

      Being in a bubble, they may well think that somehow they can make white men lose the vote. They are used to getting what they want, apparently by magic. They don’t understand how the world works. They think electricity comes out of plugs; that money grows on trees; and that courts can magically give them rights (and take away rights from men).

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  7. Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 12:58 pm

  8. Posted by Ray Manta on April 16, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Julian O’Dea said:
    Well, precisely. They would be asking men, most of them white, to enforce laws against themselves. It fails even as a thought experiment.

    Feminists rely on the “divide and conquer” strategy to play off men against one another. As of 2017, I believe they’ve reached the point of diminishing returns of this strategy.

    We white men are formidable. Women much less so. The sex that invented the Saturn rocket and the T-34 tank is not going to be dominated by the sex that has invented essentially nothing.

    Women are essentially helpless without the support and goodwill of men.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 16, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      Yes. But their mental limitations also mean that they don’t understand how dependent they are. It is the Dunning-Kruger effect. They overestimate their abilities because they don’t understand how society and technology work.

      They chuck a tantrum and go on strike in America and nobody is affected. But they won’t draw the obvious conclusion because men would never go on strike and leave women in the lurch.

      I do nonetheless suspect that Hillary’s failure could have been partly due to masculine rejection of increasingly demanding feminism.

      I know a lot of liberal American women poets on Facebook, and their utter bewilderment at Trump’s ascendency is obvious as is their sense of entitlement.

      Some of this male-bashing is starting in Australia too with government criticism of masculinity starting. I have seen some awareness of the problem among women journalists and some pushback and concern at the misandry and its implications for good relations between the sexes.

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      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 17, 2017 at 3:27 am

        It would have been interesting to see what Ayn Rand would have said on recent developments. She was scathing about feminism and early attempts by women to withdraw household services. She saw things in terms of fair exchange. In a scene in one of her novels a female character keeps house for a man in exchange for living in his home.

        The Atlas of her novel Atlas Shrugged represents the productive people who hold up the world. He is a male figure and she probably had businessmen in mind. Her response to the posturing of increasingly useless women can easily be imagined.

        I certainly have no problem with women who make a useful contribution either in managing a home (which is a skill if done properly) or in productive work in the economy. I have known many such women. It is the women whom Ayn Rand would have called moochers and looters who are so reprehensible.

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