Rough Justice: is it moral?

Thinking about this extraordinary case (“Woman Slices Off Rapists Genitals, Forces Him To Eat It At Gunpoint”) made me reflect on other examples of rough justice.

I have always understood “rough justice” to mean justice that is not technically strictly legal, but which is felt to be nonetheless deserved. The definition given here is not quite in line with my understanding, but I will use the expression to mean what I have always understood it to be.

There seems to be a view that sometimes people “had it coming” or “needed to learn a lesson” or even – in a Texas idiom I have heard of – “needed killing”. Speaking of Texas, there was this case:

Father who beat to death man he caught raping his five-year-old daughter will NOT face charges because of Texas state laws on deadly force

It is hard to imagine many people being troubled by that outcome. Or am I wrong?

Two other cases I have known among acquaintances involved a man who made his girlfriend eat an offensive letter she had sent him while he was overseas and a woman who broke her husband’s ribs as he lay in a drunken stupor because she was worried he was becoming an alcoholic.

What do people think? Is justice sometimes done, although it is not within the letter of the law?

Feminists often seem to think so. For example they often seem to feel that a man who “misbehaves” gets what he deserves. Are they correct in some sense of “rough justice”?


9 responses to this post.

  1. I’m not sure I’d place them all in the same category, or even what categories should be used. I certainly have no problem with the Texas case, but that is because I think it is within the bounds of law. The man was defending his daughter from further violation and I think it would be unreasonable to expect that anyone, man or woman, would be thinking rationally upon finding their child being raped. Technically, it may have been excessive force, but who would be in the right frame of mind to make that judgement? If, however, he had killed the rapist several days later, that would be a different matter… possibly closer to what I think of as ‘rough justice’.


    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 8, 2016 at 7:33 am

      It seems that some prosecutorial discretion is often applied. For example it appears that the castrator will not be charged. Not surprisingly.


  2. Posted by Glengarry on April 9, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    Well, we used to have the crime passionel.


  3. Posted by Jim on April 10, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    “Woman Slices Off Rapists Genitals, Forces Him To Eat It At Gunpoint”

    I’s saw this cunts tits off with a rusty saw and force her to eat it. I don’t care if she was raped or not. She has no right to do that.


    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 10, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      I understand that he was a child molester so my sympathy for him is limited.


      • Posted by Jim on April 11, 2016 at 3:44 pm

        Sigh…sympathy. I don’t give a fuck about your emotions here. That’s IRRELEVANT.

        And I don’t care if he was or not. Yes what he did was disgusting (only a dumb ass would think otherwise) but that STILL doesn’t justify mutilation and torture. I guess I’m used to something called The US Constitution that forbids such cowardly and barbaric practices. You can’t make exceptions even for vermin like him because that’s a very slippery slop we’d be treading on.

        Besides, pussified males (they’re not men just males) only seem fine with torture and brutal acts when it’s committed against men while women who commit equally vile acts can get aware with anything. That’s another thing I’m sick of. The double standards and hypocrisy because….vagina. Oh, and there’s another factor here. It’s called FALSE accusations, which are rampant. You could end up mutilating or killing an innocent man.

        I remember reading about an incident in Mexico where some piece of shit cunt accused this poor man of rape. What did these mindless white knight faggots do? Well they tied the guy up (like a bunch of cowardly pieces of shit), tortured and then murdered him. Turns out that later she recanted and admitted she made it up. An innocent man was brutally tortured and murdered (that far worse than rape) See the problem here Julian? It could be YOU one day. Think about that.

        So sorry, put your emotions aside and act on principle here. Just lock up the PROVEN criminals, that way they can’t hurt anyone anymore.

        So we can go two directions with this. The cunt who did this (or women who molests children) deserves torture and mutilation or neither do. Period. End of story. If left up to me she’d get 40 years hard labor or maybe the death penalty so as to discourage this kind of vigilantly garbage. I would just put these types of criminals (male or female) in prison. No inquisition torture or anything. That’s just cowardly, barbaric, and an excuse to be just as bad and evil as a criminal and feel justified about it.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on April 11, 2016 at 3:54 pm

        Yes. I see your point. But I think that the fact that she had just been raped by a man with a history of molesting children is relevant too. Unlike some of your cases, she had no doubt that he was guilty. She had just been raped. The man himself is not saying otherwise, is he?

        Someone here has mentioned the “crime of passion”. Emotional states have been recognised as relevant in law.

  4. Posted by Julian O'Dea on May 7, 2016 at 1:14 am

    I think this kind of question relates to what I think of as “the problem of the disproportionate response.”

    An example might come from a football game. A player is niggled by another. He responds aggressively. He is then singled out and penalised. How much blame does each player deserve?


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