Women defence ministers and other oxymorons

The Guardian puffing feminism, because that is what they do.

And a meme:

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And now an article from a European woman in response to the threat from Islamic refugees:

Europe’s tragedy: Too much Angela Merkel, too little masculinity

 

 

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36 responses to this post.

  1. Likewise, look at the credentials of Croatia’s Minister of Defence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Kotromanović

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      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 18, 2016 at 4:41 am

        Well, yes.

        I checked that the above meme was based on a genuine photo, and it was. Those kinds of appointments suggest a frivolous approach to national security. Of course, we now have our own female Australian Minister of Defence too.

      • I don’t think it’s entirely beyond a woman (with a relevant background) to be a good Defence Minister, but it would be unusual. E.g. a woman with a Thatcher-esque character could make it work.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 18, 2016 at 4:59 am

        Yes. I think so. The problem is that you have to send the right message. A woman like Thatcher would be taken seriously. But I am sure I am not alone in finding that top photo rather peculiar-looking.

      • Yes, I find the photo bizarre. The idea of putting national security in their hands troubles me. They don’t have the gravitas to run a school assembly, let alone the defence forces. The look like giggly schoolgirls.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 18, 2016 at 8:05 am

        It brings home to me how people’s perceptions can vary. The Guardian at least affects to find the photo inspiring. But these women look to me like a tuck shop committee. They could at least try to look serious.

  2. Posted by Jim on January 18, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    Women aren’t supposed to be leading anyway. It’s far beyond the vast majority of their ability to do it. It’s called biology. That picture has always gives me a laugh mixed with contempt and disgust at how emasculated western men are. Even to the point of living in the fantasy world of girl power! lol.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 18, 2016 at 11:51 pm

      As Mishka says, there is no real reason why an exceptional woman couldn’t be a defence minister, if she had a plausible background.

      The suspicion is however that these women were appointed for wrong reasons, including a perceived need to break down “male power structures”.

      Moreover, I would say that an important part of a nation’s security morale lies in projecting the correct image – and those silly-looking women don’t. I can imagine Muslim male refugees in their new northern European homes looking at that photo and concluding that the native European men must be laughably weak.

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  3. The top photo, at most, definitely says to me “defence” (at least based on their democratically decided credentials).

    The bottom photo, again at most, says to me “attack” (especially considering his almost certainly less than democratic credentials, and recent regional developments).

    And in the lingering age of MAD (Mutually Assured (nuclear) Destruction), I’m comforted by the fact that men like the below are becoming less common, if not that women like the above are becoming more.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 19, 2016 at 8:58 am

      Maybe. But as long as there are men like that, women like those are not much comfort to their citizens.

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      • In my experience, women are good at concealing their true selves purposefully.
        Likening your photo to a poker game (which war is increasingly akin to), if the above women have aces they’re well concealed. While the below man has laid his cards on the table, in an arguably imprudent (and definitely anachronistic) move.

      • Please remember, women like that are politicians, not generals or soldiers. They need only understand the economics and politics of conflict, though I’m sure you’d argue that many men under their command would not unquestionably follow their orders.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 19, 2016 at 9:58 pm

        I would argue that it sends a signal. The Guardian certainly seemed to think so. And I am not sure that it is the kind of signal a sovereign nation should be sending in a world of aggressive Islam and indeed Russia, just to name two threats.

        It suggests a frivolous attitude to national security.

  4. At the risk of getting away from the point, perhaps women as defence ministers reveals an emerging truth: that economics, not physical conflict, is now a more relevant theatre of war. And that men are moving into associated government and private fields, leaving women to babysit outdated modes of contest.

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    • Posted by Jim on January 19, 2016 at 4:24 pm

      No, it’s just gynocentrism.

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      • I find it hard to believe a democratic country would appoint a woman defence minister simply on collective gynocentric grounds. Can you elaborate on your point?

      • Posted by Jim on January 20, 2016 at 5:22 pm

        “I find it hard to believe a democratic country would appoint a woman defence minister simply on collective gynocentric grounds.”

        You can find it “hard to believe” (where have you been living, a cave?) but you need to open your eyes dude. Can you not see how friggin gynocentric the entire western world is? He-for-she. VAWA. Women’s groups have incredible power in western governments, the UN and so on. Do some research. And the Scandinavian countries are the worst!

        Women have simply been HANDED jobs because vagina. Once women got the vote governments had to pander to their endless demands. Again, do some research. It’s everywhere.

        Hell, in the US men receive 63% longer sentences for the EXACT same crime!

  5. If you are going to have open borders, the sex of the MOD is irrelevant.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 19, 2016 at 8:56 pm

      If you have a government which puts females in crucial security positions you have a government which is likely to open its borders. Germany is a case in point.

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      • Posted by Jim on January 20, 2016 at 5:30 pm

        “If you have a government which puts females in crucial security positions you have a government which is likely to open its borders. Germany is a case in point.”

        Yup. Women usually don’t follow logic they follow wherever their emotions take them at that moment. They’re extremely unstable creatures and are not fit to lead or hold power of any kind. As you can see, they’ll destroy their own nations and even welcome thieves and rapists in. How ironic.

        One day VERY soon men are going to have to just grow a pair and tell women to sit down, shut up, we’ll handle this problem. Too harsh or blunt you say? Sometimes people need a harsh wake up call.

  6. Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 20, 2016 at 2:49 am

    Political Correctness Exposes the West to Attack (by Janet Albrechtsen).

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1684222545152327&id=100006937921933

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  7. “If you have a government which puts females in crucial security positions you have a government which is likely to open its borders. Germany is a case in point.”

    It is complicated. Liz I, Catherine the Great, Indira Gandhi, tough broads all. Is it the feminist ethos or Progressivism that wastes it all away.

    However, no one is going to stop the rush to a feminist world order (other than Islam taking over and telling them bak to the harem). It is not “If you have a government…” We all do have governments who would put them in until trannies demand a turn

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 21, 2016 at 12:21 am

      Serious countries still aren’t doing it. It is the mark of a nation that had given up on being taken seriously.

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      • Posted by Dash Riprock on January 26, 2016 at 1:52 pm

        Absolutely right. And it pains me to say it but the serious countries (Russia, Poland, Hungary, etc.) all share the common experience of having lived and survived the experience of Nazi and Stallinst occupation. Is there something in those experiences that does something to strip away the fat from the soul and return people to a more elemental and clear way of thinking than the past half century of peace and prosperity has done for the West? (and yes I know western Europe was occupied by the Nazis, but if was a totally different occupation than what occurred in the Ostland). Not ever wishing I had the experience but it is food for thought.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 26, 2016 at 4:19 pm

        One thing I have noticed is that even in Australia, women of Eastern European origin tend to have a good sense of their role as women.

  8. I know I don’t have a serious government. If Oz is, let me know. I would like to live in a serious country as opposed to a country with serious frickin’ cold like we have here now.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 21, 2016 at 6:30 am

      Unfortunately our new “conservative” Prime Minister is currying favour with all the pressure groups and he has installed a woman defence minister here, as I mentioned above. This isn’t necessarily a problem if morale among the men doesn’t suffer. Australia is a relatively masculine country in ethos, and we haven’t reached quite the level of feminist lunacy that other parts of the West have yet.

      There has also been some pushback on political correctness in the armed forces recently. And the previous more leftist government had a rather hysterical male minister towards the end, so arguably the current woman is no worse.

      As for cold, it is currently quite unpleasantly hot and humid right here now. Heat is not uncommon, but we have had rain, and now it is humid as well. This is in Canberra, which gets hot in summer but normally stays fairly dry.

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    • Posted by Jim on January 28, 2016 at 4:45 am

      This is what she’s really saying:

      Be a good little boy and do as your told. I’m a strong empowered bitch from hell and you WILL obey….*looks to her left*…well except for this rapist. Hurry rescue me please!!

      *He rescues her*

      Thanks but now get back on your knees and serve me!

      Take a hike bitch. Go protect yourself.

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      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 28, 2016 at 6:04 am

        It is hard to know how bad the situation really is, both with respect to the harassment and the emasculation. Many sources are biased. But if the local men have opted out, it is not surprising. Women used to make themselves pleasant to the men around them in case they ever needed protection (especially their husbands of course). But that ethos is weaker these days.

  9. Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 28, 2016 at 10:35 am

    I will, as they say, just put this here. An interesting thing is that the academic had blogged some commonsense “red pill” ideas. He said that women prefer men who speak their minds.

    http://takimag.com/article/heretics_in_the_femfog_neal_nicholson/print#axzz3yWujO1Qb

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  10. Reblogged this on To our bodies turn we then and commented:
    I laughed, hard. But I probably shouldn’t have because it’s true.

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