Men adapting

Men are nothing if not adaptable.

And they respond to incentives.

If they are not rewarded for being “organisation men”, they will seek the rewards of being “hippies” and “creatives”.

This article is not that surprising, therefore:

How Feminism Created the Manic Pixie Dream Boy“.

The article is by Mark Judge.

One of the advantages of living in a wealthy society, or in a society where people will financially support you, is that it makes being some kind of “creative” or “artist” more feasible. In the days when men supported women as wives, many women tried out various creative activities while enjoying their patronage. And among the bad sculpture, daubs and second-rate-Sylvia-Plath, there were probably some worthwhile productions.

It has long seemed likely to me that men, freed of the requirement to put on a white collar and march off to the daily grind, would choose to explore their creative side too.

The article and the issue are also discussed at Dalrock (h/t).

A quote from Mark Judge:

“While there have always been fey and lightweight male artists, there was once also room for raw masculinity amongst writers, poets, musicians, and filmmakers.

A male artist or free spirit could be both tender and tough, quoting Yeats one minute and then showing up at a woman’s apartment at midnight to scale the fire escape outside the next. The combination of masculinity and tenderness could make an indelible impression. It’s why names like Hemingway, Brando, Baldwin, Kerouac, Stallone and even Shatner are iconic.”

Yes. One of the strangest social changes in recent times has been the gradual self-emasculation of the male creative type. Most of the male poets and the like I come across today are clearly keen to join the men’s auxiliary of the feminist movement.

A particularly good example was the decline of Norman Mailer, from egotist and masculinist to me-too feminist in his later years.

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9 responses to this post.

  1. Hippies cum and go. The more dedicated men make statues and paint pictures, write plays and build artifacts that last hundreds of years.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on September 20, 2015 at 7:31 am

      I am not sure what is going on here. I can see various possibilities. Maybe the women are attracted to the men because they seem creative. Maybe the men are going into relationships with female “suits” while the women are still young and nubile, but the men have no intention of making a longer-term commitment. Maybe the women are indeed frustrated by the young men’s lack of economic drive or by a perceived lack of masculinity.

      I am not sure.

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  2. It also comes with the perceived femininity of the arts. Probably due to the association with beauty with femininity.

    This ensues that masculine men stay away from the arts and effeminate men enter the arts.

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    • Posted by Julian O'Dea on September 20, 2015 at 12:42 pm

      Well, I think that gay men have invaded the arts. Steve Sailer wrote on this a few years ago. Broadway, I think he said, still had heterosexual men until quite recently. Now, not so much.

      I think the association between the arts and femininity is especially strong in America. It would not be so strong in parts of Europe, I imagine. And Japanese culture seemed to have a role for the arts that was not uniquely feminine.

      While there is a strong tendency for men in the arts to be a bit on the effeminate side, and on the left, there are notable exceptions.

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      • Why do you think there is this link in the US?

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on September 21, 2015 at 3:43 am

        Perhaps for the same reason the arts are considered a bit feminine in Australia.

        Something to do with frontier societies. When people leave for a faraway land, they tend to leave behind some baggage, mental as well as physical. And high culture is one of those things. This is especially true if the people who migrated to the New World were working or lower middle class, groups less likely to be interested in culture.

        As well, when the frontier is reached, culture is not as useful as practical skills. Both America and Australia have a strong streak of can-do and pragmatism.

        One of the cliches of the Western, it seems to me, is that the local schoolmaster is often portrayed as a rather effete individual. This is played for laughs, but, sorry to descend to cliches myself, I cannot imagine that John Wayne played too many schoolmasters or frontier artists.

      • Yeah. It seems that beauty is mistaken for decadence methinks. Even if in nature its breathtaking beauty is paired and associated with unforgiving hardship and soul forging challenges especially in the frontier.

        You may be interested in the examples of masculine art that would fit well into frontier art of would accurately capture the frontier aesthetic:
        hunting_the_cave_bear_by_zdenek_burian_1952
        magic_rites_by_zdenek_burian_1958
        robinson_crusoe_volcanoe_by_zdenek_burian_1963

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on September 21, 2015 at 5:31 am

        Yes, they resemble some of the book illustrations I remember from my childhood, illustrating buffalo kills and so on. And the work of Frederic Remington in particular.

        fr

        (This one looks a bit Australian.)

        As for the Japanese aesthetic, which allowed an honoured place for men, here is a copy of the entire film, Utamaro’s World. I saw this years ago, and remember it as a very powerful film, with some ugly scenes in places. This is the only copy of the film I can find, and it is in Japanese with Russian subtitles! Still, it is interesting just for the visuals. Utamaro is the main character, an artist with a lot of women. His men friends are poets and so on. Some classical Japanese poetry is quoted, for example:

        http://vdownload.eu/watch/10035676-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80-%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE-utamaro-yume-to-shiriseba-utamaro-39-s-world-%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BE-%D0%B4%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B7%D0%B8-1977-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B1%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D1%8B.html

        (It looks weird, but the URL opens OK.)

  3. Posted by Anonymous Reader on September 21, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    What’s going on here was described by John Bagot Glubbe in The Fate Of Empires, written back in the 1970’s. Suggested reading…

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