Historically, men did not admire fat women

Last year I wrote a post rebutting the notion that the ideal of slender women is only recent. In fact, for hundreds of years high art has depicted relatively slim women.

I recently noticed that Chateau Heartiste made a similar point a few years ago, using an example from ancient Rome.


[Mrs Patrick Campbell, as drawn by Aubrey Beardsley]


5 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 8, 2015 at 11:43 am

    A commenter on that Chateau Heartiste thread posted claims (for some reason) that girls have now drawn level with boys in American schools in mathematics. To which I would make two responses. Perhaps it shows how very badly American schools are now teaching boys. And the second: I shall believe that women are as good as men at mathematics when they start actually producing really good mathematics at the same level as men. They have a lot of catching up to do.


    • Posted by Jim on January 8, 2015 at 7:31 pm

      What schools have done (in the US at least) is dumb down the material hugely over the years. This is why it appears girls have caught up to boys in math. It’s kind of like how they make it easier for women to get into the military. They don’t have the same physical requirements as the men do.

      It’s the same old “equality of outcome” instead of “equality of opportunity”. Cultural Marxism at work.

      And it’s funny. We always hear how women are smarter than men, which always makes me laugh. But listen to these arrogant cunts. It’s laugh-inducing but so arrogant at the same time:


      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 9, 2015 at 2:02 am

        I have written about this before. It is one thing to perform well in the sheltered academic environment of school, but quite another to achieve at a high level in the real world. For a variety of reasons women do not do the latter (with some exceptions).

        Most innovation, in all areas, even the arts, is still done by men. This does not appear to be changing.

        I notice that Intel are throwing 300 million dollars at improving “diversity”. But you can’t change reality. White (and Yellow) men are simply intellectually the most gifted. This is what real-world evidence continues to show. There ARE exceptions, but the general rule applies.

        Nobody seriously expects Tanzanian women to put a satellite in space.

      • Posted by Julian O'Dea on January 9, 2015 at 10:06 am

        As so often, a whiny piece from a feminist source confirms my general impression:

        “Over the past few years, there has been a great deal of discussion about why women aren’t achieving as much in their careers as their male counterparts, even though women have been enrolling in and graduating from college in greater numbers than men since the 1980s.”

        Various possibilities are considered, but surely a major point is that performance in formal education may be a very poor predictor of performance in the real world.

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